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Peter Staudenmaier's weasling continues.
To: <anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com>
References: <20040311024644.87933.qmail@web14424.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] To Peter
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:18:23 -0500
Hi again Daniel, you wrote:
"Actually, the title of Chapter 6 is "The Five MAIN
Races of Mankind." Root races are not mentioned anywhere
at all in the book. Nor is the word "Aryan"."
Peter Staudenmaier:
I think you need new reading glasses. The title of chapter
6 is in fact "The Five Root Races of Mankind". The
book was published in 1970 by the Rudolf Steiner Press, translated
by A.H. Parker. Would you like me to send you a photocopy?
Daniel:
Sorry that I wasn't clear. I have the German in front of me
(primary sources). The title of Chapter 6 is "Die fünf
Hauptrassen der Menschheit" If it stands as the "Root
Races" in the English version, then it has been mistranslated.
For some reason I thought you used the original in your essay.
Sorry.
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Daniel wrote:
"Despite being in quotes, the phrase "Aryan race"
is nowhere in the book."
Peter Staudenmaier:
That's true. (It is not true, however, that the word "Aryan"
is not mentioned in the book, as you claim above.) Is there
some reason you're ignoring the revised version of my article?
Daniel:
The word "Aryan" (and I looked for Arier and arische)
is nowhere in the German. I'll have to look at this translation.
I am ignoring the revised version of your article only by
accident. I did a google search for "Anthroposophy and
Ecofascism" and took the first search result. If you
are concerned with the accuracy of your writing, you might
consider insisting that the owner of "waldorfcritics.org"
update it.
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Daniel wrote:
"Despite being in quotes, the pharse "root races"
is nowhere in the book."
Peter Staudenmaier:
That's not true. Could you tell us what edition of the book
you're looking at?
Daniel:
The 1962 Gesamptasugabe version.
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Daniel wrote:
"Despite being in quotes, the pharse "germanic-nordic
sub-race" is nowhere in the book."
Peter Staudenmaier:
That's true. Wouldn't it make sense to take a peek at the
revised version of the article?
Daniel:
If I can find it. Would it make sense to update it on the
sites that google findes among the top ten search results?
If I were concerned about my good name being damaged by inaccurate
versions of my writings, I would go at least that far.
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Daniel wrote:
"The word "Aryan" is nowhere in the book."
Peter Staudenmaier:
That isn't true. Take a closer look at p. 106 (that's p. 114
if all you have is the German).
Daniel:
I'm not finding it on page 114 (1962 edition). Could you give
me the sentence?
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Daniel wrote:
"Peter, just what book were you reading when you wrote
this, because it is not the book you have cited. In fact,
I don't think it is even Steiner."
Peter Staudenmaier:
The title is The Mission of the Individual Folk Souls in Relation
to Teutonic Mythology. You think maybe A.H. Parker forged
it?
Daniel:
I am starting to wonder about the translation. Parker appears
to have taken some liberty with the exact terminology.
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Daniel wrote:
"Steiner never spoke outside of Oslo on that "tour",
and gave only two lectures beyond the 11 printed in GA 121."
Peter Staudenmaier:
Agreed.
Daniel:
I take it that sentence has been corrected in the revised
version?
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Daniel wrote:
"Peter, is this your idea of the "historical polemic"
that a half dozen respected authors you refer me to purportedly
support?"
Peter Staudenmaier:
No, it's my idea of simple reading. What book are you looking
at, Daniel?
Daniel:
The one that contains:
"It will be seen from the last lecture that if we wish
to make an impartial study of the facts underlying our present
investigation we must transcend those prejudices which might
easily arise on matters which I must now describe objectively.
So long as one has the slightest tendency to take personally
an objective description of a particular race or people, it
will be difficult to reach a unprejudiced understanding of
the facts presented in this lecture-course. For this reason
these matters can only be discussed in the light of a systematic
knowledge of the spirit. For however deeply one may be involved
emotionally in a particular people or race, as Anthroposophists
we have an adequate counterpoise in the teaching of karma
and reincarnation, when rightly understood. This teaching
opens a vista into the future and reveals that our integral
Self is incarnated in successive ages in different races and
peoples. When we contemplate the destiny of our integral Self
we may be sure that we shall share not only the positive or
perhaps also the negative aspects of all races and peoples;
but we may be sure that in our inmost being we shall also
receive the countless blessings of all races and all peoples
since we are incarnated in different races at different times.
Our consciousness, our horizon, is enlarged through these
ideas of karma and reincarnation. Only through these teachings
therefore do we learn to accept what is revealed to us at
the present time concerning the mysterious relations of race
and nation. If we rightly understand the theme of these lectures
we shall harbor no regrets at having incarnated in a particular
people or race. But an objective survey of national and racial
characteristics may, nonetheless, provoke dissension and disharmony
unless it is accepted in the spirit I have already suggested.
The aspirant for spiritual knowledge will learn through the
teachings of karma and reincarnation how every nation, even
the smallest nation, has to contribute its share towards the
total evolution of humanity. In the second part of this lecture-course
I propose to show - and herein lies its real importance -
how the particular influences of the missions of the several
peoples are merged in the whole of humanity and how even isolated
ethic groups which are scattered here and there amongst larger
national groups have their part to play in the great harmony
of human evolution."
Rudolf Steiner, The Mission of the Individual Folk Souls in
relation to Teutonic Mythology, London 1970, pages 82-83.
I would like to emphasize in particular the sentence:
"The aspirant for spiritual knowledge will learn through
the teachings of karma and reincarnation how every nation,
even the smallest nation, has to contribute its share towards
the total evolution of humanity."
This seems to paint a rather different picture than the one
you do.
Daniel Hindes
The exchange continues.
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