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Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Polemic and History
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:36:42 -0500
Peter Staudenmaier:
Thanks for your thoughts,
Daniel. I think you still have a shaky grasp of what objectivity
means to a historian and what role it plays in historical
writing. I also think that a large chunk of your argument
depends on the notion that persuasion is a kind of coercion.
I think that idea is entirely wrongheaded. The part of your
post that struck me most was this:
Daniel:
Peter, my essay
on the subject suggested that the determining factor in whether
persuasion is coercion is the intention of the writer. This
is consistent with a number of schools of thought in the fields
of ethics. I am applying it specifically to polemical writing
here.
It surprises me not in the least that you would claim my solidly
grounded discourses on objectivity are "shaky" to
your eyes. I would expect nothing less of you.
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Daniel wrote:
"In such true historical research, contrary viewpoints
would be first and foremost interesting, and therefore included,
rather than distained and dismissed."
Peter Staudenmaier:
Why do you say "rather than"? The proper approach
is to include contrary viewpoints and then criticize them
and explain why you think they are mistaken. There is nothing
wrong with disdaining and dismissing arguments that you think
are erroneous, especially ones that you think are silly and
pointless.
Daniel:
It is all about intentions again. And attitude. If you find
contradictions interesting, you are more likely to try to
understand each viewpoint on its own merit. If you find contradictions
stupid, it is unlikely you will spend much time trying to
properly understand them, and your chances of succeeding are
slim. And it all goes back to whether your goal is truth or
power.
Daniel Hindes
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